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Post by Ben - SM03 on Jun 7, 2010 15:40:41 GMT -6
Where is everyone?
As of today it looks like I will be racing Fred McMullen and Chris Wilkin on Sunday.
As of now I have a lock on a overall podium finish and a first in class.
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Post by mojo on Jun 7, 2010 18:58:45 GMT -6
007 will be in the running, provided I get the coolsuit box hooked up. See you Sunday!Sunday!Sunday!
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Post by turbot on Jun 7, 2010 19:30:14 GMT -6
Y'all don't make me come out there.... ;D
Seriously though.....I wish, I'm so burned out on work, work and more work, I'm about to pull my hair out.
T
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Post by mojo on Jun 7, 2010 19:52:17 GMT -6
Don't pull it out, it will eventually leave on it's own. Note my noggin and others amongst us. Come on out and play, it'll do you some good. I will be my usual slow self til I figure the new parts out. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Post by 360glitch on Jun 7, 2010 20:51:22 GMT -6
I plan on coming out, but not for the race. The car (and myself) are both lacking qualification.
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Post by gmoran on Jun 8, 2010 6:34:49 GMT -6
I plan on being out there, not for the race though. New helmet still has not come in so I am stuck with the sa90 for now.
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Post by turbot on Jun 8, 2010 8:01:29 GMT -6
I plan on being out there, not for the race though. New helmet still has not come in so I am stuck with the sa90 for now. Dude, I don't even think I know you yet but if the only thing keeping you from racing is a legal helmet, you can use mine. If you want, I'll send a new Sparco balaclava to keep your sweat your own and you can buy/keep that for yourself. T
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Post by gmoran on Jun 8, 2010 11:54:18 GMT -6
I plan on being out there, not for the race though. New helmet still has not come in so I am stuck with the sa90 for now. Dude, I don't even think I know you yet but if the only thing keeping you from racing is a legal helmet, you can use mine. If you want, I'll send a new Sparco balaclava to keep your sweat your own and you can buy/keep that for yourself. T Hrmm... I don't think that is the only thing keeping me from racing. I've never been in a race so I think I need someone to give me the ok.
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Post by turbot on Jun 8, 2010 16:32:38 GMT -6
Dude, I don't even think I know you yet but if the only thing keeping you from racing is a legal helmet, you can use mine. If you want, I'll send a new Sparco balaclava to keep your sweat your own and you can buy/keep that for yourself. T Hrmm... I don't think that is the only thing keeping me from racing. I've never been in a race so I think I need someone to give me the ok. Well, email says - "All Racers with current GCRS log books and licenses are eligible to enter." Best to get some experience now with less of a crowd, especially getting used to the close proximity of the starts. Clint is a demon starter.... ;D If you use the DEs and lapping days wisely, you can make yourself ready to race but nothing there really prepares you for the starts. PCA does this with "practice starts" where several experienced drivers take to the track with rookie entrants to simulate green flag starts. It'd be nice if we could do this in CGB this year. Chris....? Carver...? T
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Post by gmoran on Jun 8, 2010 18:15:54 GMT -6
Hrmm... I don't think that is the only thing keeping me from racing. I've never been in a race so I think I need someone to give me the ok. Well, email says - "All Racers with current GCRS log books and licenses are eligible to enter." Best to get some experience now with less of a crowd, especially getting used to the close proximity of the starts. Clint is a demon starter.... ;D If you use the DEs and lapping days wisely, you can make yourself ready to race but nothing there really prepares you for the starts. PCA does this with "practice starts" where several experienced drivers take to the track with rookie entrants to simulate green flag starts. It'd be nice if we could do this in CGB this year. Chris....? Carver...? T Is there somewhere I can read all this? What is considered a current GCRS logbook? I do have a log book.
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Post by turbot on Jun 8, 2010 19:55:34 GMT -6
Is there somewhere I can read all this? What is considered a current GCRS logbook? I do have a log book. That was just a bit from the event invitation email. The rest was just the date, time, etc. If you have enough track time in the eyes of the organizers and have been soloing, I'm pretty sure your car could get a year 2010 log book if you are the one that has Troy's RX7. Trouble is, I don't know if/how/when cars are tech'ed before this Summer Series and that would be required for you to have had a "current" log book. That is, unless Troy had the car tech'ed and gave you a current year log book for this year....? Does it have a 2010 cover on it....? You need to call/PM Chris Carver or Chris Wilken. I'm sure they could make it happen if you and the car qualify. You'd have the $20 GCRS license fee and the $10-20 tech/log book fee IF in fact they are taking participants and cars that aren't currently eligible and that's a big IF according to the wording of the event email. T
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Post by gmoran on Jun 14, 2010 12:20:26 GMT -6
Is there somewhere I can read all this? What is considered a current GCRS logbook? I do have a log book. That was just a bit from the event invitation email. The rest was just the date, time, etc. If you have enough track time in the eyes of the organizers and have been soloing, I'm pretty sure your car could get a year 2010 log book if you are the one that has Troy's RX7. Trouble is, I don't know if/how/when cars are tech'ed before this Summer Series and that would be required for you to have had a "current" log book. That is, unless Troy had the car tech'ed and gave you a current year log book for this year....? Does it have a 2010 cover on it....? You need to call/PM Chris Carver or Chris Wilken. I'm sure they could make it happen if you and the car qualify. You'd have the $20 GCRS license fee and the $10-20 tech/log book fee IF in fact they are taking participants and cars that aren't currently eligible and that's a big IF according to the wording of the event email. T This is what I have for a log book: ![](http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8034/20100614131818.jpg) Last event logged in it is 1/17/09.
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Post by turbot on Jun 14, 2010 13:52:48 GMT -6
The one you are looking for is just like that but has either a 2010 cover or a 2009 cover with a 2010 stapled over the old 2009. Will be Yellow instead of blue. Oh.....and it'll say GCRS on it.... ;D Chris Wilken or Chris Carver....pick up the red house phone... ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) GM, are you going to do the 7 race series that starts up in Sept....? T
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Post by gmoran on Jun 14, 2010 14:09:53 GMT -6
The one you are looking for is just like that but has either a 2010 cover or a 2009 cover with a 2010 stapled over the old 2009. Will be Yellow instead of blue. Oh.....and it'll say GCRS on it.... ;D Chris Wilken or Chris Carver....pick up the red house phone... ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) GM, are you going to do the 7 race series that starts up in Sept....? T I am trying to start racing asap with the summer series (that way I get some actual race time) in anticipation for the regular GCRS series (I think that's the 7 race series you are speaking of, no?). I would think I need some time with an instructor though wouldn't I, or is it like you have been saying, just up to the guys that run the track? I have been to most of the recent Solo 1 days (3-4 times) and about 4-5 lapping days but I have only had two lapping days in the RX-7, the rest were in my street car (09' mustang). I also don't run the RX-7 at the solo days, just my street car (not enough track time to warrant loading up the RX-7 on the trailer and whatnot, whereas I can just drive my street car there). Right now I am running around the track at about 1:34-1:36 but I am not pushing the car to the point where it wants to give, rather just setting a reasonable pace and trying to get used to the feel of the car. I think I need a few "O shit" moments before I find the limit.
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Post by turbot on Jun 14, 2010 15:04:46 GMT -6
Listen, I'm trying to help you because I too thought that the clear, cut and dried path to actual racing was/is not very clear and each sanctioning body seems to have their own criteria and it get real confusing.
My own intention was PCA racing and then, like SCCA, NASA, etc., use that license to obtain a local one (they are all recognized) but as it turns out, I eventually used the GCRS license to apply under PCA's "previous racer" license app.
Here's what I suggest for you and for anybody else that finds this using an internet or forum search.
When you sign up for any event, DE, lapping day, etc., use your web browser to print the screen that shows you as a confirmed participant.
Even if you are solo lapping (DE you would have an instructor to sign), seek out the event coordinator and have them sign the bottom of the sheet that you printed to witness that you have completed that particular event and keep these as records to show your on-track experience.
For the ones you have already done, you can print a "resume'" using the same method.
The fact that you used motorsport.reg (BMWCCA) or clubregistration.com (PCA and GCRS) to sign up for the evnts means that you have the records available that they keep right there on the websites.
All of this information can be eventually transferred to a logbook later as leverage to get your license but since it is not mandatory to keep this info in a log book AFTER you have been licensed, I'd just keep it separate.
Really, the log book is for the car's legality unless you are doing PCA, etc. where you are only entitled with a "rookie" status until at least 4 races have been completed.
So....in short, informal documentation is what you need to present, the printed documentation of you DE and lapping days mentioned above.
From there, ultimately, at least in our series, the green flag to race will be given by either Chris Wilken, Chris Carver or Kent Brousard.
Not sure whether this is a "rule" or based on case by case basis (individual driver) but in most cases, when you start racing competitively, expect to start at the rear no matter where you qualify, until it is deemed by the same powers that be, that you are safe, alert and can be trusted to start normally.......I'd just expect to start at the rear for the first weekend.
It's fun back there anyway.... ;D
On your pace....., the mid-low 1.30's, is this in the RX7 or in the street car....?
If I were you, given that Troy won the blue bracket championship in the Mazda, I'd focus on knocking that time down and sign up in the blue bracket for next season.
If you are up to it.....I'm sure there are line nuances and other tips that Troy can help you with on that particular car and I know he will.
You are going to find that the actual race group is VERY willing to help each other.
That's about all the info I can give you unless you have plans to race a 944..... ;D
Fire away if you don't understand something.....I'm happy to help if I can.
T
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