troym
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Post by troym on Jan 15, 2010 11:55:13 GMT -6
Yes, I saw the clip. You did a good job of shutting it down. Looks to me that was your only option.
I had my video running when I went to grid, but it shut down as it does sometimes. I tried to get Wilkens to restart it before we went out, but I guess it didn't work. Too bad because I would like to see the view from my perspective again.
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 15, 2010 12:32:45 GMT -6
Note Turbo-T hard on the brakes to miss the black car. Foiled my prospects of getting a good start so I can practice being passed by the maximum amount of cars down the straight.... T dude! that was super close. your boy gave you some slack at the start. i would have pushed my old man wide into 10. Yeah I was probably a little generous but with the cold weather and tires I didn't want to push the issue too much. It all worked out anyway
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 15, 2010 12:38:54 GMT -6
T, I need to do editing on the vids as I turned the camera on early, plenty of excess footage in HD no less. I might have to get your help in converting. You and Eon did a bangup job this race and his camera is better than the chasecam as far as video quality. I do have a good close shot of Goddards fender as everyone got by in the heat.LOL And next race, Troy can try the 007 on and see what its like.We are close in hieght and the seat is large enough for Chris so he should be able to get properly seated. sorry for the absence on the board, been unde th weather. and thanks for thew kind words. This is a link to the software that I used to trim mine down and convert it. The problem that I had is that the contourHD records .mov so the ole PC didnt really want to cooperate lol pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+Video/Studio+Family/Studio+Ultimate+14.htm If you need any help with it shoot me a PM or email me Nine44S@gmail.com
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 15, 2010 12:44:26 GMT -6
I love your camera! Could you adjust the mirror down just a tad so we can see the traffic behind you? ;D Nice smooth driving Eon, is that a stock 944 tranny or? The shifting points look a little different than when I had my stock tranny. Come to think of it, mine was a Euro...T would that be geared different than the US tranny's? What are you talking about? The mirror is adjusted perfectly I could see you coming from quite a ways back. Now I just need to work on not letting people by as easy ;D
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 22, 2010 6:40:58 GMT -6
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Post by turbot on Jan 22, 2010 7:18:54 GMT -6
You have it set to "private". T
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 22, 2010 8:28:56 GMT -6
It should be fixed now.
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Post by harrisracing on Jan 22, 2010 8:42:28 GMT -6
Hey Troy....there you go, right from the horse's mouth. We'll make sure and go out together. I sure hope the 007 aint on one of those break out pace moods that day.... And uh, for the record, Patrick Harris probably could have run Lane down and passed him if it was him in Eon's car..... ;D T What's this about?
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Post by harrisracing on Jan 22, 2010 9:05:15 GMT -6
Eon, Good race. I have some constructive criticism that should make you faster if you want it: 1) Turn 1 - try it full out, left foot brake if you need to. I understand the car was understeering (can see from video), just curious to see if you have tried this turn faster than you are going. Not an incredible amount of time to be gained, but if nothing else brake a bit later and a bit harder to see if you can go faster. 2) Turn 8 - Brake LATER...you are lifting too soon and spending time coasting there even before braking, then braking too light. Keep speed up longer down the straight. 3) Turn 11, double apex. Once you hit the first apex, NAIL the gas - you can be on it earlier. It's not necessary to swing back to the right of the track AFTER the second apex (I don't think I hit that 2nd apex concrete on 11 even). So basically hit the first apex of turn 11 and then nail gas and look at the concrete for 12 (skip the second apex). I pull people here everytime. 4) Turn 14 - on gas earlier. All in all the lines are smooth and hand / foot motions are good as well but you can start working on the next step which is being a little more aggressive with the braking and turn-in. When a car like this is understeering, you can drive the car harder (diving hard on braking, a little more jerky with turn-in while braking etc) in efforts of getting the back end to move a bit. This is a way to drive around an understeering car. It's funny, but when my car understeers (which it does a lot since there isn't much weight up front) it always takes me some time to get over the "smooth" factor in practice. It understeers, so I don't want to go too fast off track or risk braking too much...then I get upset at my lap times, drive the hell out of the car by intentionally upsetting it before turns to get over the "understeer hump" and the car is MUCH faster. Just some advice. Also read Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley. Theres even a speed secret applicable to John G on this one: "No races are won in the first few turns - but lots of them are lost." With this advice I think you are leaving as much as .5 to .7 sec on the track. Please don't take this as arrogant or anything, just trying to help you get on top of your class! Patrick
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Post by turbot on Jan 22, 2010 9:50:45 GMT -6
Just a jab in jest......kinda self explained by your next message... T
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 22, 2010 11:15:31 GMT -6
Eon, Good race. I have some constructive criticism that should make you faster if you want it: 1) Turn 1 - try it full out, left foot brake if you need to. I understand the car was understeering (can see from video), just curious to see if you have tried this turn faster than you are going. Not an incredible amount of time to be gained, but if nothing else brake a bit later and a bit harder to see if you can go faster. 2) Turn 8 - Brake LATER...you are lifting too soon and spending time coasting there even before braking, then braking too light. Keep speed up longer down the straight. 3) Turn 11, double apex. Once you hit the first apex, NAIL the gas - you can be on it earlier. It's not necessary to swing back to the right of the track AFTER the second apex (I don't think I hit that 2nd apex concrete on 11 even). So basically hit the first apex of turn 11 and then nail gas and look at the concrete for 12 (skip the second apex). I pull people here everytime. 4) Turn 14 - on gas earlier. All in all the lines are smooth and hand / foot motions are good as well but you can start working on the next step which is being a little more aggressive with the braking and turn-in. When a car like this is understeering, you can drive the car harder (diving hard on braking, a little more jerky with turn-in while braking etc) in efforts of getting the back end to move a bit. This is a way to drive around an understeering car. It's funny, but when my car understeers (which it does a lot since there isn't much weight up front) it always takes me some time to get over the "smooth" factor in practice. It understeers, so I don't want to go too fast off track or risk braking too much...then I get upset at my lap times, drive the hell out of the car by intentionally upsetting it before turns to get over the "understeer hump" and the car is MUCH faster. Just some advice. Also read Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley. Theres even a speed secret applicable to John G on this one: "No races are won in the first few turns - but lots of them are lost." With this advice I think you are leaving as much as .5 to .7 sec on the track. Please don't take this as arrogant or anything, just trying to help you get on top of your class! Patrick Yes I agree I am loosing time in all of those places, and every race I pick up some more time as you can tell by the times on mylaps. It's just gonna take me a little while longer to get everything out of the car and I'm pretty sure it's more than .7, probably more like 1-1.3 if not more!
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Post by turbot on Jan 22, 2010 11:27:05 GMT -6
Eon, Good race. I have some constructive criticism that should make you faster if you want it: He hee....you would be very interested in one of my videos then... Eon's a big kid and can speak for himself but we talk about this all the time and I have a few things of my own to add.....surprisingly.. 1) Turn 1 - try it full out, left foot brake if you need to. I understand the car was understeering (can see from video), just curious to see if you have tried this turn faster than you are going. Not an incredible amount of time to be gained, but if nothing else brake a bit later and a bit harder to see if you can go faster. A 944 can make it through T1 at WOT but sometimes not, depending on the drive out of T14, sometimes you have to just lift, sometimes just tap the brake. From what I can tell by being in front and behind every 8V 944 that has ever raced the series, Eon's car is the strongest so he's already a few mph faster at that point of the track and going through T1 at least as fast as any of us. Thing is....comment-wise, without knowing the seat of the pants "feel" he has speed and grip wise, how can you even comment on that...? Lane is very experienced and right at the top of the 944 driver food chain, was leading the race....and Eon isn't losing anything there all the way up to T4 for the first few laps while his grip was good so I can't see his commitment being in question. 2) Turn 8 - Brake LATER...you are lifting too soon and spending time coasting there even before braking, then braking too light. Keep speed up longer down the straight. Legit point.....at least, I thought it was too when I watch his vids knowing what I am doing in the car either trying to stay in front or at least glued as close as I can be to his bumper. By comparison, I'm wrestling, yanking the wheel on turn in, rear end out and usually in a slide. Trust me......It took me a while to figure out how he's as fast and faster than me sometimes when it looks like he's cruising with a lot left to give. Thing is, his corner entry speed is faster. In the first few laps....this is pretty evident if you watch the gap to Lane before and after T2-3 to the braking point in T4. The disparity after that is a personal choice. Some 944 drivers go down to 2nd gear at T4 and others feel better with higher speed at turn-in and stay in 3rd. Where I'm late and hard on the brake followed by instant WOT at T8 for instance (one of the points you mentioned) he lifts earlier, coasts a bit and brakes lighter but I'll bet data would show that his speed through the whole corner is higher and more consistent than me. Again, I'm right there......but I'm working WAY harder. 3) Turn 11, double apex. Once you hit the first apex, NAIL the gas - you can be on it earlier. It's not necessary to swing back to the right of the track AFTER the second apex (I don't think I hit that 2nd apex concrete on 11 even). So basically hit the first apex of turn 11 and then nail gas and look at the concrete for 12 (skip the second apex). I pull people here everytime. Personally, I do whatever it takes given the grip at hand to align the car so as to be to the left of entry for T13 so my right hand tires are parallel to the grass/curbing to the right......everything from T11-13 is for this purpose.....it helps in getting a longer burst of WOT before turning in for T14......momentum baby....! You can see this line clearly in the 1-2 laps of the video before Eon gets past me when I over cooked T2 with him and Wilken bearing down on me... ;D 4) Turn 14 - on gas earlier. Hey....enough is enough......, he can already blitz me down the straight from 3-4 car lengths back..... ;D P.S. - The books again...... T
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Post by turbot on Jan 22, 2010 11:52:41 GMT -6
Hey BTW - y'all cut the man some slack....., he's only on his 2nd or 3rd race here, ran 2nd in the heat for a while, finished the feature in 5th or 6th place and is only .100 from being in the 1.24.xx second range already.
Not bad for a lowly PCA DE driver.... ;D
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nine44s
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Post by nine44s on Jan 22, 2010 11:53:10 GMT -6
I couldn't really get on the power any sooner in 14 that particular day with the understeer but in general I know I am losing time there. I think my strong point is actually from T1-T3, everywhere else I'm losing some time, mostly 4-5. As for the book... I'm pretty sure I'll be better of with track time. Afterall I already knew that the race isn't won in the first turn... I thought that was just commonsense
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Post by turbot on Jan 22, 2010 12:13:50 GMT -6
Afterall I already knew that the race isn't won in the first turn... I thought that was just commonsense Don't be so hasty.....I think there's a chapter identifying which pedal is which too...., that kind of info is hard to beat right there.... Let's see....., read or drive, read or drive, read or drive...... Uh....drive... ;D "Dif'rent strokes" as they say......wait, where'd I read that....? And uhm...."there's more than one way to skin a cat....." T
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