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Post by Fast Guys on Jun 8, 2011 15:44:22 GMT -6
 Does this look like it would work??? ;D The springrates are a little higher than what most guys run... |
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Post by turbot on Jun 9, 2011 6:03:41 GMT -6
Andy, I was wondering where you were. Hellz to the yeah.......! , that's the 3012 Koni aluminum inverted rear coilover, sells for around $1500 new with springs. Unless you are spending $ 5000 for the 28-series, it doesn't get any better for the 944 rear than those, at least in the Koni line-up, and honestly, the 28s are as good as ANYTHING else out there, Moton, Leda, JIC/Cross....., anything. Just hard to justify $4500+ on a $1000 buy-in price for a 944. I have the same rear shock.....word to the wise though, err on the safe side on rebound or the rear of a 944 will jack itself downward on bumpy tracks before it rebounds, loading up the rear springs and causing a handling mess......We tested them on Eon's car and at middle rebound adjustment, the rear of the car was pitched WAY low by the time he got to T2. The fronts look like the 8641 sport insert into Sachs housings, single adjustable, not near the quality of the rear you have there but they'll work......, that's what I run on the front of Frankie and this is all you get from Ground Control.....a Koni insert into a GC housing. Rates for springs are all over the place. There IS a right and wrong philosophy and it'd take too much typing to give my own logic and reasoning here in text. Plus....in a SPEC class, the gains are hard to come by and I'd rather not share too much detail anyway..... ;D I just look, listen and nod when some of the drivers elaborate on their spring rates that were recommended by "tuner" shops....  T |
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Post by turbot on Jun 9, 2011 6:14:25 GMT -6
Hey Andy.....by the way, I don't see any threaded sleeves there in the pic for the front.....the "kit" has the red anodized sleeves, and unless (hard to tell) the sleeves are on the front tubes, they could be the Koni USA supplied sleeves which are black and I just can't make them out.
Just a heads up that you might have extra expense.
Also, there's supposed to be a rubber sleeve that goes (in your pic) at the top of the housing, partially inside the tube and folds over the outside......this sleeve acts as a centering bushing for the top of the shock where it interfaces the tube, mostly a seal to keep DIY coolant fluid in (between the shock and tube) because the new insert has several raised impressions to improve the fit between the two.....but it IS missing.
Only reason I mention this is....., with the singular attachment design from the bolt visible at the bottom, the shock will eventually wallow out the tube because of the canted mounting angle and you'll eventually have a couple of degrees of camber change on track.....very undesirable.... ;D
T
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Post by Fast Guys on Jun 9, 2011 6:15:44 GMT -6
The spring rates are in the 700-800 lb range, which is much stiffer than most people run, but since I have them, I figure I'll try them out with stock bars.
Does anyone have a set of camber plates laying around? Also, I need a body harness for a 1985.5 944.
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Post by Fast Guys on Jun 9, 2011 6:17:33 GMT -6
It has a factory Porsche sleeve and it has the rubber gaskets. All is good in the world.
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Post by turbot on Jun 13, 2011 8:00:13 GMT -6
Hey Andy, thought of one more thing to consider this weekend while I was looking at a set of strut housings I had cut that were laying by my chop saw here at work....., the flange thickness on the spindle is different between the early and late cars too....didn't remember which model y'all had but you might have to either make a shim or machine the spindle down depending on which way the parts might not match.
Not hill for a stepper with machining skills like Russ but just wanted to throw that out there.
There are people I know running 1000-1200 lb. springs, not that I would....but....nevertheless, not unusual.
T
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Post by Fast Guys on Jun 13, 2011 10:50:24 GMT -6
I was probably just going to make new housings. The whole setup was so cheap that I couldn't pass it up. We have a 1985.5 chassis.
We really need a chassis harness. You don't have anything laying around do you? Russell was trying to get cute with this thing and took all of the wiring apart.
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Post by turbot on Jun 13, 2011 12:18:16 GMT -6
I was probably just going to make new housings. The whole setup was so cheap that I couldn't pass it up. We have a 1985.5 chassis. We really need a chassis harness. You don't have anything laying around do you? Russell was trying to get cute with this thing and took all of the wiring apart. Uh, I know I have an early......maybe two of those. IIRC, there are 4 or so more pins on the PROM socket and DME chip itself (early has to be unsoldered from the board = no socket). Also iirc, the extra capacities were put in place for expansion that never was actually used (I know for sure it's that way on the 944T). Just saying....because I'd imagine the early/late harnesses might have the same extra unused additions but not sure. Only thing I know for sure is, you can NOT switch between era AFMs/DMEs because the AFM for sure works on a different signal voltage for minimum and WOT and you are sure to run lean and melt valves if you have an incompatible pair. Go here - www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/classic/genuineparts/originalpartscatalogue/ , input both an early, then late 944 (944S and T will definitely differ) and compare the part # for the engine harness. If they are the same, I have one for y'all. T |
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Post by maxenergy on Jul 17, 2011 12:38:18 GMT -6
Chris/Terry,
I have an assortment of springs for sale. Also I have 1 pair of Brand New Nitto NT01 245/18's
and 1pair of 18" used Michelin sport cups for sale.
I am planning to be at the 400. If anyone is looking for an additional driver please let me know.
Max
225 573-0664
maxenergy@cox.net
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