mojo
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Post by mojo on Dec 8, 2009 21:04:24 GMT -6
I just posted the bracket heat race from Sunday on Vimeo. Also posted a short of the pass by Chris from the feature. I think you can see that some of the better drivers are right here in our neck of the woods. Great avoidance of Mike by Chris and Dennis. Look in the mirror!!! ;D
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Post by harrisracing on Dec 9, 2009 8:07:28 GMT -6
link?
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Post by turbot on Dec 9, 2009 8:17:53 GMT -6
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Post by turbot on Dec 9, 2009 8:27:09 GMT -6
I just posted the bracket heat race from Sunday on Vimeo. Also posted a short of the pass by Chris from the feature. I think you can see that some of the better drivers are right here in our neck of the woods. Great avoidance of Mike by Chris and Dennis. Look in the mirror!!! ;D Heck with that clip.....hurry up and get the start up. I want to see why Chris thanked me for helping him through at the start so I don't do it again.... ;D Re. Dennis and "avoidance"...., in the heat race, his engine must have starved for fuel between T4 & 5 just as I dive bombed Eon to take the pass back after he steam rolled me on the straight (  ). I was on WOT and came up on Dennis' bumper in a flash with Eon right on my bumper. Didn't even have time to signal Eon to move over as my hand were kind of full.... ;D Lucky thing he followed me when I yanked over to the right to miss Dennis or it could have been nasty. Needless to say, both him and Dennis both smoked me a lap or two later between T14 & T1........AGAIN......!  By the way.....definite "code brown" for Mike and all involved in that mix up.....! T |
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Post by turbot on Dec 9, 2009 9:14:57 GMT -6
Nice drivin' there DC. Walt really made you work for it. There it is too, just what I was describing in the post above, played out right in your video......three freakin cars that I out qualied blasted me on the straight on the first lap.....  I don't want more power than all the other 944s.....just the same amount.... ;D Keep in mind too, that battle with Walt, he was having a pretty decent day time-wise himself. And those that underestimate Allan Simpson, especially in the section between T8 & 14 will pay for it. The racing is very close in the bracket groups, not taking anything away from SM or GT but red bracket is a blast......! Wish Carver would have made it. T |
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Post by harrisracing on Dec 9, 2009 9:55:35 GMT -6
With the exception of the Poupart breakout, GT2 was pretty uneventful from my windshield. I trid to run with Donovan, but when I realized it was futile I just saved my tires and rode around (no reason to risk spinning and losing the spot). I was shocked that I had actually won.
Patrick
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Post by harrisracing on Dec 9, 2009 11:06:49 GMT -6
Also,
DC your camera is AWESOME, what is it?
AND that little off-track excursion could have been a LOT worse! good job keeping eyes up everyone.
Patrick
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Walt
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Post by Walt on Dec 9, 2009 11:49:35 GMT -6
Nice drivin' there DC. Walt really made you work for it. ... Keep in mind too, that battle with Walt, he was having a pretty decent day time-wise himself. T That was alot of fun! It was cool seeing it from another driver's view. I did log some of my personal best times so far. I see from DC's footage where I need more work, thanks DC. Look out at the next race, I'll be whittling down my times some more... DC, I'm in the same boat as you, both of our cars have been proven quick by other drivers, now it's up to us to get there ourselves. And those that underestimate Allan Simpson, especially in the section between T8 & 14 will pay for it. T I'll agree with that! |
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mojo
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Post by mojo on Dec 9, 2009 12:23:54 GMT -6
We definitely need and will improve over the season. /the videos help me, I am glad they are of use to others. Patrick, the camera is a JVC Everio flash memory model GZ-ms120. It doesn't have a remote, but the next model above it does. It was about 250 a while back, but I am sure it is cheaper now. Get the next one up with remote as once strapped in, no reaching it to activate it, |
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Walt
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Post by Walt on Dec 10, 2009 13:50:08 GMT -6
Here's the Bracket Heat Race from my POV. Camera battery died for the feature so I didn't get any footage.  www.vimeo.com/8100052 Walt |
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Post by turbot on Dec 10, 2009 18:25:05 GMT -6
Here's the Bracket Heat Race from my POV. Camera battery died for the feature so I didn't get any footage. www.vimeo.com/8100052 Walt [Patrick - that avatar is killer.... ;D] Walt....., constructive criticism....., you are looking behind you WAY TOO much...! A glance every now and then tells you all you need to know unless you are in heavy traffic or the first few laps of a race. I think that's going to be a hard habit to break and if it makes you more comfortable then I guess you'll be forced to keep doing it but you can go faster if you concentrate more on what's up ahead. I'm not going to ramble unless you ask for more critique. I see between race 2 (which you also have up) and race 3 you have made a big improvement in another area and that is the speed vs. depth of the car in front of you. It's ok to keep full throttle and get right up in someone's trunk. You are better here in this second race on that front than the last and it's all about personal comfort level but you have room to spare and feather the throttle too much when you could be gaining valuable ground. Full throttle when you are a few car lengths behind a car isn't gonna leap you forward dangerously quick where you have to be that cautious but feathering to leave an extra safety margin gap is VERY costly. Running in VERY close proximity is something we did from very early on at DEs to gain comfort in close quarters. Whether it's a foot off someone's bumper or even inches, you have to force your foot to remain planted because the car in front IS. The car will wiggle and squirm but you just have to let it do it's thing and trust the car. You are getting better by leaps and bounds and safety is very important.....your own personal comfort zone is just that, so I don't know how close to 100% you are there but to go faster to the next step, you';re gonna have to let it fly. I'm going to do my best to get a clear video of myself because it's only fair that I open myself up to opinion too but all the ones I have are out of an opaque white windshield view. The ones you, Eon and DC put up show me a lot in them so if someone wants to comment.....feel free... ;D T |
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Walt
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Post by Walt on Dec 10, 2009 19:57:08 GMT -6
T,
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I do appreciate it. You are right on all accounts. All areas I need to work on. Yeah, I've got to focus more on what's ahead and staying closer on the tail of the car in front of me if I am going to be successful in passing them. That was something I didn't do much of in the DE's. Building trust in myself, the car and my fellow competitors is something that will increase each race for me. Heck I was thrilled to race side by side as much as I did this time compared to first two races. I know, racing side by side just slows you down...
Anything constructive that will help me improve is ALWAYS welcomed, even if it does come from someone who learned how to race in DE. ;D (a nod to Andy, he's been too quiet)
Walt
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Post by turbot on Dec 11, 2009 7:39:57 GMT -6
T, Thanks for the constructive criticism. I do appreciate it. You are right on all accounts. All areas I need to work on. Yeah, I've got to focus more on what's ahead and staying closer on the tail of the car in front of me if I am going to be successful in passing them. That was something I didn't do much of in the DE's. Building trust in myself, the car and my fellow competitors is something that will increase each race for me. Heck I was thrilled to race side by side as much as I did this time compared to first two races. I know, racing side by side just slows you down... Anything constructive that will help me improve is ALWAYS welcomed, even if it does come from someone who learned how to race in DE. ;D (a nod to Andy, he's been too quiet) Walt Walt, I would have just given the "nice driving" default reply if what I saw there wasn't so obvious. Up until you posted that particular video, all I could see was DC's in-car view and up around the point where you held him on the straight with the challenge for a couple of laps, DC made up a lot of ground on you at T14 and I was thinking to myself (and even told Eon while watching it) that you had the better line through there because DC's car was kinda pinched on the inside. It's evident after seeing your video why he got alongside. Once you are committed where you were on track, it's YOUR real estate and there's not much you can do about it anyway.....so just be predictable and focus up front and make the most out of it.....the other driver will take care of himself. It's hard to apply max throttle when you are looking back and to the side so much instead of where you are pointing. Your hands look very smooth on the wheel and that's a good thing but it's hard to judge because you might be limiting your steering inputs subconsciously because you don't want to alter your path when you are not looking ahead.....that's natural. In a grouping like GT, where for example, you might be in a 1.23.500 car, on track with cars that run up to 1.16 second laps, yeah, I could see keeping close tabs on the mirrors but in our group, a check of who's coming around the bend onto the straight when you reach S/F, before T8 and random other quick checks depending on proximity is plenty enough. I usually use a look clear across the track out my RH window towards T4 after I turn in at T5 or T7 to see if someone is gaining on me and you can do the same with peripheral vision as soon as you crest T14 or look across the wall to T8-10 to do the same. Unless somebody is about to tap my rear bumper (Carver.. ;D) or is right in my center rear view, still undecided on which side to blast by me on power...( ), I use the side mirrors anyway. Getting over the hurdle to keep an inch off somebody's bumper, even while the cars are bouncing up and down, sliding, etc. will come with time and confidence in the other drivers. The disagreements me and Andy had on race vs. DE were based on the fact that I had already gone out of my way (and Eon) to purposely run in close proximity with others in the DE format. I had Gary and Phil ride my a$$ for several laps in their SP2 cars when I had the 944T and really try to pressure me into a mistake. Same reasoning went into me offering the 944T to Andy to join me and Eon and eventually, my main motive for having Scott take the 944T and run 1-2-3 with me and Eon in a few sessions, trading passes and really pushing nose-tail. You are already VERY aware on track and that's important. Anytime we ever used to run up to you in DEs, I knew you would be safe and fair but in the races, you need to come to the realization that you OWN part of the track when in proximity of other cars and you are not obligated to give anybody anything except in avoiding an incident. T |
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Post by turbot on Dec 11, 2009 7:43:39 GMT -6
Hey Walt, one last thing that I think is helpful as a tool to review the race after the fact.
Open up two browser tabs and get the race loaded up in two different windows.
Stop/Start the beginning until you get them synced.
You can switch between DC's view (or Eon's) and yours and see your car from inside and outside and learn a lot from that.
T
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Post by Fast Guys on Dec 11, 2009 7:52:02 GMT -6
Walt and DC- Your videos showed some really good driving in places, and overall good car control. Because you can keep the car pointed in the correct direction, you need to work on your race-craft to keep up with the faster pack.
Walt- T pretty much said what I wanted. It did seem like your car was pushing at the beginning of the video. Make sure your alignment is right.
DC- (and Walt)- You were running a very modified line even when you had 3 car-lengths in between you and the others. If there is room to fit 7/8ths of your car in between two guys on the ideal line, put your car in there.
Driving that far outside of the ideal line does a few things. First, it just isn't as fast. Second, it made you very inconsistent and you seemed disconnected from the task at hand. You weren't confident in your shift points and turn-in points and it made you busier than you should have been. On lapping days, you should run the modified lines to establish your braking and turn in points in those situations so you don't have to learn it during the race.
Only drive a passing line when you are actually making a pass. Otherwise, stay in the draft and keep your speed up and pull out when it is time to make the move. If it doesn't stick, get your place back in the draft and try again.
We drive production cars for a reason: they have bumpers. While you should be trying to avoid any contact, don't be too afraid of little bumper taps, especially in a straight line. Every car accelerates at different rates and love taps are just part of it. I've had people turn my mirrors on the way by. It's bound to happen.
Overall, it looked like you guys had tons of fun. Keep working on it and try to catch up to the front pack. Good work.
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